The Best Camera I Never Knew: The Agfa Karat IV

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It’s been a while since we had one of these! I’m sure some of you may have thought, “This guy ran out of cameras to review”…Ah, no my friends! I may run out of energy, run out of patience, run out of time, but never, ever run out of cameras. That would be sacriligious!

Ok, today I have a doozy for you. Now the few of you who recognize the camera from the title, I know what you classic camera connoiseurs are saying…Sam, don’t do it. Don’t do it Sam! 🙂

Sorry I hate to drag this camera in the mud, but after three copies I must let my opinion be heard. And if it makes you feel better, it is just my opinion after all.

THE AGFA KARAT 

The Agfa Karat series of cameras were folding cameras produced by Agfa of Germany in the 1930s. There were many, many models, but this article focuses on the Agfa Karat IV which was produced around 1956, near the end of Agfa’s production of the Karat series.

The Karat IV features the mythical Agfa 50mm f/2 Solagon lens. It takes a standard 35mm cartridge, unlike earlier Karats which used a special and specific Agfa Rapid film cartridges. Over the years, the Karat, especially the models with the Solagon have achieved cult status with users and collectors alike.

KARAT TIDBITS

The Agfa Karat is not a camera that most of the masses today would know. In fact, today, many would know little about the Agfa company itself, other than folks who will remember them for their film which in its day always played second or third or fourth fiddle to Kodak, Fuji, Ilford or even Konica. Not that Agfa film was bad. No, not at all. They made good, even great film such as the APX series which I enjoyed greatly back in the day. It was just that Agfa film was not the first film that came to most people’s minds when it came time to buy. Same can be said for their cameras. I’m sure there are people who don’t even know that Agfa once made cameras.

If you know about the Agfa Karat series, then I want you to pat yourself on the back for being a true camera afficianado!

Most people will come across this camera in three ways; one, they inherited it from their Great Grandfather or their long lost uncle or maybe even their Mama. Two, they came across the Karat by accident at a pawn shop or garage sale. Three, they got bored with everything else and seeked out “vintage camera” on eBay.

Oh there’s a fourth group…Folks like me who accidently read a thread about it on one of the forums. I suspect many of our readers found out about the camera this way (fist bump) 🙂

WHY IT DIDN’T JIVE WITH ME?

I’m going to cut to the chase. I had three copies of the Karat. One with the highly regarded 50mm f/2 Schneider Xenon lens. And two with the even higher regarded and ever so mysterious 50mm f/2 Solagon.

The first Karat I bought was the IV with the mythical Solagon lens. The dealer stated it had a “recent CLA.” I also bought two more Karats off eBay for $25 and $35 respectively. They were both Karat 36 models. Now this is not a case of camera hoarding ( but it may be!) but just know I bought the IV first since it had a CLA and I never thought of buying another one until I found issues with the IV.

Anyway, all you need to know is that all three of them, including the one that supposedly had a CLA failed to work properly.

Ok, first issue to look for in these cameras is a stiff winding lever. The grease that Agfa used turns into gunk over the decades and becomes stiff as a rock. In my case, the $25 and $35 Karat 36’s exhbited this issue. I was able to remedy this somewhat with WD-40. The CLA’d Karat IV did not have this problem, which gave me some hope that it was indeed CLA’d.

The next issue is a stiff focusing lever. One of my two Karat 36 cameras exhibited this issue. I worked it again with tiny dashes of WD-40 and it helped, but not completely. One Karat 36 had a fogged up viewfinder. It was so bad I could not see anything. Again, the Karat IV did not exhibit these issues, again giving me hope.

But as I pressed that finely tuned shutter button on that CLA’d Karat IV, I began to see a problem. The shutter was inconsistent. It was sticking at random times. I tried to remedy this with the isopropyl alcohol/ lighter fluid route which seemed to help at first, but alas it was only temporary as the problem came back. I retried again. Same thing.

I came to the conclusion that none of these cameras were reliable enough for me to waste any film on them. I sold the two cheaper ones and got my money back and got only a partial refund on the CLA’d Karat. It was pass the refund deadline, partially due to me not using right away, having faith in the dealer. Faith no more.

Bottom Line

To the folks who have a good copy of this camera, please do not be mad at me. I’m only telling it like it is. Consider yourself lucky and enjoy a great camera.

Yes, I do understand that vintage cameras need CLA’s and all that. I’m not even going to count the two cheaper Karats I got, but they do add to my experience of the Karat.

The Karat IV that had or supposedly had a CLA, I could blame the dealer (and I do somewhat) but I suspect based on reading other accounts that these cameras do need frequent work. And if you do get one, you better use it often because leaving them idle will make things worse.

The Agfa Karat is a legendary series of cameras, made my Agfa, a Camera Legend. But in the end, three models of the Karat gave me nothing but false hope and lots of heartache. The Agfa Karat is without a doubt one of the best cameras I never knew.

If you decide to get one, catch your breath, try to get it cheap and make sure you have a dealer with a good refund policy. And probably most important of all, test it right away.

If you got a good copy of the camera, I’d love to hear from you! And listen, I’m a fair man; if I do get my copy working properly or find another one that works (not that I’m looking), then I will do right by the camera.

PRICE & AVAILABILITY

The Agfa Karat can almost always be found on eBay. However, the ones with the famed 50mm f/2 Solagon are not as common although there is one that has been hanging on the auction site for months.

If you’re looking for one of these, and I don’t think that’s a good idea, prices are trending from $30-125. Though people may ask for higher prices, I don’t think the camera is worth that much, even with the Solagon.

My advice? Unless it’s from a reputable dealer like KEH, B&H, or Adorama, I wouldn’t bother. Save yourself the headaches 🙂

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13 thoughts on “The Best Camera I Never Knew: The Agfa Karat IV

    1. Haha hey Victor, eventually I’ll find a camera that works and from which I could have samples! Keep the APX, at least I know for sure that’s a great film! Best, Sam 🙂

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      1. Yes its great in terms of gray and tonal range but a little bit curvy ;- thank you my friend. Right now im looking for the Rollei film. Recently ot was in the only one store here in TelAviv bit now this store is not exist anymore but many others cell the only known Kodak and ilford plus fujifilm and some Lomography film but not a Rollei

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      2. Yes i checked the different sources and purchase a film online sometimes. The shipping of B&H is a killer. Probably of other good sources too. I wanted to buy a JCH street pan 400 film last week but found that from all the sellers is too expensive to get it here in Israel.

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      3. JCH is limited and expensive per roll here in the States. I wanted to try it too. I saw several threads where people say they didn’t like it, but showed photos with the sharpness and high contrast that I actually like. Try contacting B&H’s friendly and helpful rep Henry Posner and see if he can help you get some of that Rollei film! If you’re on Twitter, he can be contacted @h_posner He’s very helpful on the forums.

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      4. Thank you Sam ! Exactly what i loved – high sharpness and contrast and if to process it stand maybe it will be higher in tonal range. Anyway everything is became too expensive when i shop out of my country but there are some Asia located ebay stores they post free packages to Israel bit i really worry about X-Ray machines on the way of film ;-))) so i just stopped to buy online last time. Thank you for your trying to help with Rollei

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  1. Sounds like my experience with vintage point and shoots. Bought six and only one (Ricoh FF90) worked. Grrr. I’ve wanted a Zeiss Super Ikonta for a long time…but failed to bite for this reason. By the way Sam, I would love to see you review one of the old Karl Braun rangefinders! 🙂

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    1. Haha Bro! Yes, this was indeed a very similar experience to the Ricoh FF you had and the one I had too. Braun?! Camera-Werk? Bro you are even more hardcore than I! I only came across one many years ago and it didn’t work and I haven’t even thought about it till now when you mentioned it! 🙂

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      1. I actually had one as a kid. I worked a summer to buy it when I was 14. Then I sold it in 1967 for 25 bucks to help pay for my very first SLR, the Canon Pellix. Boy do I wish I had that Braun now!

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  2. Yo bromeister…Just had a chance to go over the Sony A9 camera and the engineer in me sees this as an absolute tour de force of technological beauty. As you know, I’m not a mirrorless fan, but if I were, my only quibble would be that, for a camera at this level, the battery grip should should be built in….a la D5, etc. The way it is kind of spells Pro-sumer. What do you think?

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